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Thh Fri Jun 26 12:37pm ET

Regarding the first round of a redraft...last comment.  It is not full of player 26 level players.  You cannot compare Jazz to a 26th player.  Every year we have new talent entering the league through the redraft.  Perfect example:  Maybe two years ago or three, I bought a bad team to rebuild.  I drafted Langford, Caminero and Merrill in the first round.  The sad part is I could have drafted Skenes with 1.2 but the team badly needed offense.  1.1 was Yamamoto.  Merrill was someone's cut and kicked ass his first year. I'd take Skenes, Yamamoto or Caminero over Jazz every time.   

That is my last public message on this issue.  Good luck everyone.  

Thh Fri Jun 26 12:21pm ET

Nate, 

You wrote that the picks F the D got would allow him to draft be other people's cuts. I gave you good examples of solid players I like and where they were drafted in a redraft this year to show there is plenty of significant value out there.  If F the D drafts well, he can pick up three solid players for Jazz.    

Last year, you and probably others would have made the same complaint if you replaced Tatis for Chisholm.  Or even Gunner Henderson who has been struggling for a season and a half now by his standards.  There are many examples, whether due to injury or poor performance. Jazz happens to have injury history almost every year. Look at Guerrero the past season and a half.  He is supposed to be a superstar offensive performer who is not in the top overall hitter class he should be in terms of production.  Maybe he will hit 25HR in the second half...or maybe just another 4.  None of us know.  

Good luck to you.  Know that I respect your opinion but just don't agree it is a slam dunk bad trade. I've made good arguments.  If you want more dialogue, let's do it in a private message at this point.  I love a good debate about fantasy baseball.  

Nate's Dynasty6 Fri Jun 26 10:16am ET

Thh wrote: You crack me up. Please trade me your second and third round draft picks for two of my cut level garbage players. Back up your viewpoint.

F the D is getting three players for one. Sum of parts. What is the point of having Jazz and never fielding a winning team? Miguel Vargas (5th round) is leading Jazz in 4 of 5 categories. I targeted him and Muncy for the first 5 rounds of the redraft in the example I gave. Maybe some luck there and maybe not. I have lots of Vargas on my teams.... and many others

When did I ever say I'd trade a 2nd and 3rd round for garbage players? I said trading a 2nd and 3rd round for Jazz is crazy. I'd gladly trade you my 2nd and 3rd for someone of Jazz's level. You willing to do that? I didn't think so bud.

Thh Thu Jun 25 6:09pm ET
You crack me up. Please trade me your second and third round draft picks for two of my cut level garbage players. Back up your viewpoint.

F the D is getting three players for one. Sum of parts. What is the point of having Jazz and never fielding a winning team? Miguel Vargas (5th round) is leading Jazz in 4 of 5 categories. I targeted him and Muncy for the first 5 rounds of the redraft in the example I gave. Maybe some luck there and maybe not. I have lots of Vargas on my teams.... and many others
Nate's Dynasty6 Thu Jun 25 1:38pm ET

Thh wrote:

OK Nate and others.  I'll do this once...maybe twice when I have time.  I happen to be very successful winning money in these dynasty leagues, despite how this particular team is doing, thus the 18 teams I have and learning the hard way that I cannot handle so many (doubled in the last two years with winnings only).  A good redraft is a big part of success.  Here are examples from a league I won last year for this year's redraft.  12 team $125.  Read the list...enough said (written 😊).  

This doesn't include some very good young rookie major leaguers or MLB ready players many of us would like in our own pipeline.  Exception is Kade Anderson close to MLB, is fresh out of college and looks like he may be the best pitching prospect since Skenes.

First round omitted.  ***Also, with those 2nd round picks, F the D can likely trade up into the first round with 2nd round picks to spare if he tries.  1st round always has good options.  Best examples:

2.2 Early

2.4 K Anderson

2.8 Muncy

2.10 Dominguez (12 saves)

4.1 B Ashcraft

4.3 May

5.10 C Walker

5.11 M Vargas (I’ve been happy to pick him up this late in several redrafts) 😊

6.4 Soriano (Ridiculous first two months)

6.7 Melton

8.4 Messick

8.11 Detmers

9.3 Jung

9.11 Harrison

...and more

 

You're only proving my point bud. Not a single player there is anywhere close to Chisholm. And u still have to get lucky to even get one of them.

Thh Thu Jun 25 1:18pm ET

OK Nate and others.  I'll do this once...maybe twice when I have time.  I happen to be very successful winning money in these dynasty leagues, despite how this particular team is doing, thus the 18 teams I have and learning the hard way that I cannot handle so many (doubled in the last two years with winnings only).  A good redraft is a big part of success.  Here are examples from a league I won last year for this year's redraft.  12 team $125.  Read the list...enough said (written 😊).  

This doesn't include some very good young rookie major leaguers or MLB ready players many of us would like in our own pipeline.  Exception is Kade Anderson close to MLB, is fresh out of college and looks like he may be the best pitching prospect since Skenes.

First round omitted.  ***Also, with those 2nd round picks, F the D can likely trade up into the first round with 2nd round picks to spare if he tries.  1st round always has good options.  Best examples:

2.2 Early

2.4 K Anderson

2.8 Muncy

2.10 Dominguez (12 saves)

4.1 B Ashcraft

4.3 May

5.10 C Walker

5.11 M Vargas (I’ve been happy to pick him up this late in several redrafts) 😊

6.4 Soriano (Ridiculous first two months)

6.7 Melton

8.4 Messick

8.11 Detmers

9.3 Jung

9.11 Harrison

...and more

 

Nate's Dynasty6 Thu Jun 25 12:35pm ET

The league does not monitor trades. The only way to get one reversed is to message the commish. This is a really bad start to our dynasty league guys.

Nate's Dynasty6 Thu Jun 25 12:33pm ET

Thh wrote: I know there will be plenty of good players released back into the redraft to be selected in the early rounds because we only have three bench slots for keepers. Check out the best rosters and injured players who will return next year or under performing players like Vinnie P..... there will be plenty of talent available. Do you want one of my weak players for your 2nd round pick? I'm in....

We keep 3 benches so you're talking someone's 4th bench spot or worse for jazz chisholm lol. Tell me how thats anywhere close to the same value? Please explain it to me bud.

The Minnesota Tins Thu Jun 25 12:32pm ET
I’m fine with the trade, we just need you to know you could’ve gotten a lot more. Going forward we can’t have too many more trades like this because it will completely destroy the competitive balance of the league. You probably should’ve gotten those picks and another top 100 player.
Thh Thu Jun 25 12:29pm ET
I know there will be plenty of good players released back into the redraft to be selected in the early rounds because we only have three bench slots for keepers. Check out the best rosters and injured players who will return next year or under performing players like Vinnie P..... there will be plenty of talent available. Do you want one of my weak players for your 2nd round pick? I'm in....


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