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Draft done. 

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To the commissioners, thank you for the transparency with making the adjustment.  Since it was after the deadline I am happy you reached out as I did have to adjust my board but had plenty of time to do so.

I would vote on any proposal entered as a poll.  I had some comments on the kicker rule a month ago, mainly I just didn't like more negatives for a missed FG, I think the -3 for missed PAT is enough, but agree with everything else.

Regarding the money, what is the collection/payment process this year?  And assuming still $110 until otherwise voted on but do believe it is probably a little late to vote on that one this year with Cuts already made.

Also, with everybody wanting to up the league buy in I am honestly really confused....is this for fun or is this for money and a trophy here? Maybe I just play with what would be $200 a little different out of my pocket investment wise. Just saying that if we are going to up the ante let's at least stop calling it "fun"...it's a competition for money at the end of the day guys. Not against it or some other things put forth, but let's start calling it what it is please. It's a bunch of friends gambling in order to try and win money and a trophy. And we can't put things up for vote with less than 48 hours to go. We gotta do that in the offseason not on or right before draft day. Thanks and enjoy the season everybody.

Good luck out there!

So since you put it here and seem to think I am the one wrong here. Where did I personally insult you exactly? All I did was call out the time stamps and point out that some of us are way busier than you are and yet we still got this right. But I am wrong for pointing out that a vote was done, past a very clear deadline and your being GIVEN back a player you should have been made to redraft under the league rules. And that is me attacking you personally how exactly? Honestly, this is backwards here…all I did was point out the facts and then vote no. If anybody is being attacked personally here it's me, but yeah let's go on you guys facts it's all good. On to the season already. Thanks all.

Stacy, I am not quite sure what's going on with you as of late but honestly, your tone/attitude isn't appreciated. This is supposed to be a fun league between old friends. I'm here to have a good time and keep in touch with a group of guys that I've been playing against for decades in the hopes of having the Ninjas name appear again on the Hammer trophy. I'm all for some good banter but personal insults are not cool. 

In regards to the rookie and IR FA protection - Robbie had brought it up and I had agreed - we should be able to remove the FA protection from Rookie and IR players on our own team if we don't want them protected from FA. For instance, I had Jamaal Williams on IR and come FA I didn't want to protect him and then ended up cutting him from my roster. In addition, I cut several rookies from my roster on my 20 man cut. So if we plan to cut the player or have no interest in protecting them, they should be a part of the FA cuts. Currently, if a protected player is picked in FA, then another number is pulled until an unprotected player is picked to be dropped as a FA. Robbie's suggestion would just allow us to unprotect players (Rookies or IR) we don't want on our rosters and open them up to being a FA pull. 

I think its a good suggestion and I would like to bring it for a vote prior to the draft if its not too late.

In addition, I would also like to vote on a new scoring system for Kickers if its not too late.

I am assuming that the league buy in is too late to vote on but would like to propose it for the next time we can vote on it. 

“Un protect rookie and IR players before FA”….doesn’t even make sense. Why don’t we just go back to rookie and franchise players if rookies aren’t protected after their rookie season….kinda defeats the purpose of protection doesn’t it?

All good here to play.. Thanks all.

Did these ever go to a vote? I wanted to bring back the ability to unprotect rookies and IR players also - before FA ... Are we voting on new things or do we now have to wait?

Fortunato Enterprises wrote:

Happy New League Year!  I have two proposals to keep the league fresh.  

Proposal 1:  Increase league fee -- we've had the same fee for 20 years.  Let's make it more interesting!

Increase fee to $200 ($2000 total) with following payouts:

Winner = $800

2nd = $400

3rd = $200 (gives semifinal losers another game)

Division winner = $200 (x2 = $400)

Wild card winner = $100 (x2 = $200)

Plus the $10 per person website / admin fee...

 

Proposal 2:  Kicker Scoring -- we give way too many points to the most random position.  

Current scoring:

1 pts for 1 to 20 yd FG

2 pts for 21 to 25 yd FG

3 pts for 26 to 30 yd FG

4 pts for 31 to 35 yd FG

6 pts for 36 to 40 yd FG

8 pts for 41 to 45 yd FG

10 pts for 46 to 50 yd FG

12 pts for 51 to 55 yd FG

15 pts for 56 to 60 yd FG

20 pts for 61 to 999 yd FG

1 pts for each made PAT

 

Missed FG = Not Used

-3 pts for each missed XP

 

Proposal -- let's keep it simple....3 points for every FG up to 40 yards, 4 points for 41-50, 6 points for 51-60, 8 points for 61+.  But minus 3 for every missed FG or XP.  

Commissioner wrote:
Ironically, I have Roger Goodell doppelgänger sitting at table behind me at Trio currently.

I have fixed honest miscuts in offseason for team owners since league was founded. This was legit. And have always posted them to league with full transparency. This affects very little of anything for league, draft, and competitive fairness.

Co Commish agrees and majority of league.

Dell is back on Ninjas and intended cut of Brandon Stephen's DB Bal has been processed.

Please pay attention to avoid this in future.

Return of the Mack wrote:
I support putting the player back on.

And, after all these years, its sad to see some folks still haven't learned to just shut the fuck up and be kind.

B

Fortunato Enterprises wrote:
It was an obvious mistake. She’s not asking to drop a player who was injured after cuts. No one is going to be hurt by allowing the change. I say give back Tank Dell.

REDSKINS wrote:

I'm fine with correcting what was obviously a mistake and giving Liz Dell back.

I made an honest mistake years ago not yet fully knowing the rule and was punished for it. Part of that was I lost the player too. If she gets to knowingly make this mistake and get her player back with ZERO punishment I call full BS here for the record. There is no way she should get this player back it is way past the deadline and it is a flagrant violation of the league rules if it happens. Thanks.

I'm fine with correcting what was obviously a mistake and giving Liz Dell back.

Wow...that basis still holds no water compared to the written and agreed to league rule Liz. You should not be allowed to make the change. It is against the rules. Thanks.

Alpha Ninjas wrote:

It was actually less than 48 hours after the error was made. I highly doubt the Dell/Stephens swap would effect anyone's preparation in the last 48 hours.

My opinion also stands.

Evil Monkeys wrote:

WOW....insulting as you may see it here, as you stated you have been here long enough, it is a two step process and your asking three days later after some of us have already begun preparation and crossed names off depth charts. Your mistake honestly isn't my problem as an owner here. You clearly dropped the player, it is your mistake and my vote is you don't get him back. Now you can not like that all you want, but my opinion was asked, has been given and the commissioners office can do what they want from there. If they choose to allow you to very clearly break a league rule based on a democratic vote then what is the point of the rules?

Also, before you start bashing people over there.....I have a full time job, coach soccer teams, run a family of five that has three very active kids, own and run not one but TWO companies....etc...AND I still got this right!

Feel like trying that again over there?

Thanks.

 

 

 

Alpha Ninjas wrote:
I made the cuts on my laptop on Sat and they didn’t save so I did them from my phone on Sunday. I even have a picture of this I sent my son in a text message. Lum notified me on Sunday my cuts needed to be done thank goodness, bc I thought everything was done and save so I immediately jumped on my phone and did them. I went to print out free agency lists yesterday and noticed Tank Dell, one of my fav rookies from last year and texted Lum. Time stamp of notification? Why because something in the NFL changed and it matters?!
Honestly this shouldn’t be a big deal. I’ve never ever asked for any exception in the decades I’ve been in this league, have always paid on time, hit all the deadlines, engage in the draft, submit a line up every week and feel like I’m an active owner.
I don’t work for the government but I do juggle being a single mom with 3 kids and running a household so I make mistakes. Doing it on my phone, despite to 2 step process, proved to allow me to make a mistake.
If anyone has a concern that I’m somehow trying to cheat or get away with something after all these years, then this isnt the league for me. It’s honestly insulting after all these years. As if I would drop Tank Dell and keep another DB.


quote team=Evil Monkeys]

So my questions are...

Did she not review her players before she confirmed removal? It is in fact a two step action. The time stamp of which was Sun Aug 11 3:34pm ET.

When did she notify you of this? Was it as soon as she made the drop or was it hours later possibly after seeing any news? Is there a time stamp of when she notified you please?

I work for the government....trust but verify before weighing in...thanks.

No offense but would need more data before voting either way.

 

It was actually less than 48 hours after the error was made. I highly doubt the Dell/Stephens swap would effect anyone's preparation in the last 48 hours.

My opinion also stands.

Evil Monkeys wrote:

WOW....insulting as you may see it here, as you stated you have been here long enough, it is a two step process and your asking three days later after some of us have already begun preparation and crossed names off depth charts. Your mistake honestly isn't my problem as an owner here. You clearly dropped the player, it is your mistake and my vote is you don't get him back. Now you can not like that all you want, but my opinion was asked, has been given and the commissioners office can do what they want from there. If they choose to allow you to very clearly break a league rule based on a democratic vote then what is the point of the rules?

Also, before you start bashing people over there.....I have a full time job, coach soccer teams, run a family of five that has three very active kids, own and run not one but TWO companies....etc...AND I still got this right!

Feel like trying that again over there?

Thanks.

 

 

 

Alpha Ninjas wrote:
I made the cuts on my laptop on Sat and they didn’t save so I did them from my phone on Sunday. I even have a picture of this I sent my son in a text message. Lum notified me on Sunday my cuts needed to be done thank goodness, bc I thought everything was done and save so I immediately jumped on my phone and did them. I went to print out free agency lists yesterday and noticed Tank Dell, one of my fav rookies from last year and texted Lum. Time stamp of notification? Why because something in the NFL changed and it matters?!
Honestly this shouldn’t be a big deal. I’ve never ever asked for any exception in the decades I’ve been in this league, have always paid on time, hit all the deadlines, engage in the draft, submit a line up every week and feel like I’m an active owner.
I don’t work for the government but I do juggle being a single mom with 3 kids and running a household so I make mistakes. Doing it on my phone, despite to 2 step process, proved to allow me to make a mistake.
If anyone has a concern that I’m somehow trying to cheat or get away with something after all these years, then this isnt the league for me. It’s honestly insulting after all these years. As if I would drop Tank Dell and keep another DB.


quote team=Evil Monkeys]

So my questions are...

Did she not review her players before she confirmed removal? It is in fact a two step action. The time stamp of which was Sun Aug 11 3:34pm ET.

When did she notify you of this? Was it as soon as she made the drop or was it hours later possibly after seeing any news? Is there a time stamp of when she notified you please?

I work for the government....trust but verify before weighing in...thanks.

No offense but would need more data before voting either way.

WOW....insulting as you may see it here, as you stated you have been here long enough, it is a two step process and your asking three days later after some of us have already begun preparation and crossed names off depth charts. Your mistake honestly isn't my problem as an owner here. You clearly dropped the player, it is your mistake and my vote is you don't get him back. Now you can not like that all you want, but my opinion was asked, has been given and the commissioners office can do what they want from there. If they choose to allow you to very clearly break a league rule based on a democratic vote then what is the point of the rules?

Also, before you start bashing people over there.....I have a full time job, coach soccer teams, run a family of five that has three very active kids, own and run not one but TWO companies....etc...AND I still got this right!

Feel like trying that again over there?

Thanks.

Alpha Ninjas wrote:
I made the cuts on my laptop on Sat and they didn’t save so I did them from my phone on Sunday. I even have a picture of this I sent my son in a text message. Lum notified me on Sunday my cuts needed to be done thank goodness, bc I thought everything was done and save so I immediately jumped on my phone and did them. I went to print out free agency lists yesterday and noticed Tank Dell, one of my fav rookies from last year and texted Lum. Time stamp of notification? Why because something in the NFL changed and it matters?!
Honestly this shouldn’t be a big deal. I’ve never ever asked for any exception in the decades I’ve been in this league, have always paid on time, hit all the deadlines, engage in the draft, submit a line up every week and feel like I’m an active owner.
I don’t work for the government but I do juggle being a single mom with 3 kids and running a household so I make mistakes. Doing it on my phone, despite to 2 step process, proved to allow me to make a mistake.
If anyone has a concern that I’m somehow trying to cheat or get away with something after all these years, then this isnt the league for me. It’s honestly insulting after all these years. As if I would drop Tank Dell and keep another DB.


quote team=Evil Monkeys]

So my questions are...

Did she not review her players before she confirmed removal? It is in fact a two step action. The time stamp of which was Sun Aug 11 3:34pm ET.

When did she notify you of this? Was it as soon as she made the drop or was it hours later possibly after seeing any news? Is there a time stamp of when she notified you please?

I work for the government....trust but verify before weighing in...thanks.

No offense but would need more data before voting either way.

Thank you. Yes. I meant to keep Tank Dell. I don't want Stephens. I would never have kept 5 DBs. Even 4 is a lot for me. 

Delinquents wrote:

I vote to go ahead and fix.  But, what is it again?

Cutting Brandon Stephens and keeping Tank Dell?

So my questions are...

Did she not review her players before she confirmed removal? It is in fact a two step action. The time stamp of which was Sun Aug 11 3:34pm ET.

When did she notify you of this? Was it as soon as she made the drop or was it hours later possibly after seeing any news? Is there a time stamp of when she notified you please?

I work for the government....trust but verify before weighing in...thanks.

No offense but would need more data before voting either way.

So my questions are...

Did she not review her players before she confirmed removal? It is in fact a two step action. The time stamp of which was Sun Aug 11 3:34pm ET.

When did she notify you of this? Was it as soon as she made the drop or was it hours later possibly after seeing any news? Is there a time stamp of when she notified you please?

I work for the government....trust but verify before weighing in...thanks.

No offense but would need more data before voting either way.

I vote to go ahead and fix.  But, what is it again?

Cutting Brandon Stephens and keeping Tank Dell?

Need league to weigh in. Liz clicked wrong player when she made cuts on Sunday.

Meant to cut Brandon Stephens and Dell.

If had been caught immediately, I would have just adjusted and let all know the error. As has been done before when folks catch. 

I believe was,  and I  know was on honest mistake and inclined to fix it. But because its been a couple days past I want to ask league. 

Trade Block Update

Players on the Block:

• D.J. Moore WR CHI
• Keenan Allen WR CHI

Draft Picks on the Block:

• Round 2 Pick 5
• Round 4 Pick 5
• Round 12 Pick 10
• Round 15 Pick 10

Would look to gain picks.

Trade Block Update

Players on the Block:

• D.J. Moore WR CHI
• Keenan Allen WR CHI

Draft Picks on the Block:

• Round 15 Pick 10

Would look to gain picks.

Offering up my townhouse in Reston as a place to host the draft next weekend for anyone that would like to come out and meet up.  

2154 Golf Course Dr.

Reston, VA 20191

Trade Block Update

Players on the Block:

• D.J. Moore WR CHI
• Keenan Allen WR CHI

Would look to gain picks.

When are 20 man cuts due?

Fortunato Enterprises wrote:

 

Free agency is complete. will update rosters later this eve. 

Redskins

Kamren Curl, Zach Sieler, Antonio Gibson, Jalen Pitre, Tony Pollard

Buddha

Justin Tucker, Kenneth Gainwell, Matt Stafford, Allen Lazard, Sam Howell

Rastas

Tremaine Edmunds, EJ Speed, Robert Spillane, Cody Barton, Chris Godwin

Fortunato

Zamir White, Azeez Al-Shaair, CJ Mosley, Matt Gay, Deforest Buckner

Delinquents

Christian Wilkins, Shaq Leonard, Kevin Byard, Elijah Moore, Trevon Moehrig

Brain:

Koo, Bell, Carlson, Adams, Grant

Lum:

 Dillion, Allen, Gay, Alligier, Hill

Bob:

Slay, Hobbs, Davis, Whithead, Ekeler

Liz:

Gardner, J smith, Juedy, St Juste, Cousins

Stacy:

Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Dustin Hopkins, Jevon Holland, James Conner, Jake Elliott

 

Will be pulling the last 5 teams with Brian at 3:15 today. (Stacy, Liz, Me, Bob, Brian) 

Looking like Crafthouse in FFx corner. 

I have updated the FA losses to the 5 rosters that already pulled and added back Taxi/IR players. 

Cut down to 20 is Due no later then August 11th at 11:59:59pm. 

protects from Brian: 

Burrow

Aj Brown

Mcbride

Mixon

Wagner

Kmet 

M. Brown 

Free agent losses so far:

Redskins

Kamren Curl, Zach Sieler, Antonio Gibson, Jalen Pitre, Tony Pollard

Buddha

Justin Tucker, Kenneth Gainwell, Matt Stafford, Allen Lazard, Sam Howell

Rastas

Tremaine Edmunds, EJ Speed, Robert Spillane, Cody Barton, Chris Godwin

Fortunato

Zamir White, Azeez Al-Shaair, CJ Mosley, Matt Gay, Deforest Buckner

Delinquents

Christian Wilkins, Shaq Leonard, Kevin Byard, Elijah Moore, Trevon Moehrig

Protections: R. Mostert, D. Henry, R. Stevenson, D. Adams, B. Okereke, T. Bernard, D. James

Rookies: W. Levis, J McLaughlin, R Johnson, G Pickens, M Mims

IR: D. Watson, M. Andrews

Protections:

Lamar Jackson

Josh Jacobs

Isaiah Pacheco

Kyren Williams

Jaylen Waddle

Nico Collins

Foye Oluokun

Josh Allen

James Cook

Rachaad White

Justin Jefferson

Drake London

TJ Edwards

Micah Parsons

Protections:

J Herbert, S Barkley, T. Etieene, Amon Ra St. Brown, Terry McLaurin, T. Kelce and Myles Garrett

Rookies Jack Gibbens, Tank Bigsby, Sean Tucker, Quientin Johnson and Luke Musgrave

IR J.K. Dobbins

Patrick Mahomes            QB         KC          PROTECTED (1)        

David Montgomery         RB         DET                    

Kenneth Walker III          RB         SEA       PROTECTED (2)                      

Brandon Aiyuk   WR        SF                        PROTECTED (3)        

Tyreek Hill          WR        MIA                    PROTECTED (4)        

Sam LaPorta       TE          DET                     ROOKIE

Chase McLaughlin           K            TB                      

Brian Burns        DL         NYG                   

Maxx Crosby      DL         LV                        PROTECTED (5)

Germaine Pratt  LB          CIN                                   

T.J. Watt             LB          PIT                      PROTECTED (6)

Quincy Williams LB          NYJ                     

DaRon Bland      DB         DAL                                  

Benjamin St-Juste           DB         WAS                   

Kirk Cousins       QB         ATL                                                 

Brian Robinson Jr.           RB         WAS                    PROTECTED (7)

Tyjae Spears       RB         TEN                                   ROOKIE

Jordan Addison  WR        MIN                                  ROOKIE

Tank Dell            WR        HOU                                 ROOKIE

Jerry Jeudy         WR        CLE                                                 

Trey Palmer        WR        TB                                     ROOKIE

Jonnu Smith       TE          MIA                                               

Will Anderson Jr.             DL                                      ROOKIE

Bryan Bresee     DL         NO                                    ROOKIE

Jalen Carter        DL         PHI                                    ROOKIE

Nick Herbig        LB          PIT                             ROOKIE

Jaelan Phillips    LB          MIA                    

Jack Sanborn      LB          CHI                     

Drew Sanders    LB          DEN                    ROOKIE

Dorian Williams LB          BUF       ROOKIE

Deonte Banks    DB         NYG                    ROOKIE

Sauce Gardner   DB         NYJ                     

Christian Gonzalez          DB         NE                       ROOKIE

Brandon Stephens           DB         BAL      

Tariq Woolen     DB         SEA                    

Jamaal Williams RB         NO                      IR         

Trevon Diggs      DB         DAL                     IR

Derek Stingley Jr.             DB         IR

I may tweak this before this Saturday. 

1. Trevor Lawrence QB JAX  - Protected 
2. Tyler Allgeier  RB ATL 
3. Romeo Doubs  WR GB 
4. D.J. Moore   WR CHI  - Protected  
5. Rashee Rice  WR KC - Rookie 
6. Taysom Hill  TE NO 
7. Brandon McManus K WAS 
8. Derrick Brown  DL CAR 
9. Montez Sweat  DL CHI  
10. Devin Lloyd  LB JAX 
11. Patrick Queen  LB PIT  - Protected  
12. Fred Warner  LB SF  - Protected
13. Jessie Bates III  DB ATL   
14. Devon Witherspoon DB SEA - Rookie
15. Hendon Hooker QB DET - Rookie
16. Jordan Love  QB GB  - Protected  
17. Michael Carter  RB ARI   
18. AJ Dillon  RB GB   
19. Joshua Kelley  RB LAC
20. Kendre Miller  RB NO - Rookie  
21. Dameon Pierce  RB HOU 
22. Jonathan Taylor RB IND  - Protected
23. Keenan Allen  WR CHI
24. Christian Kirk  WR JAX 
25. Jaxon Smith-Njigba WR SEA - Rookie
26. JuJu Smith-Schuster WR NE 
27. Cedric Tillman  WR CLE - Rookie  
28. Kyle Pitts  TE ATL  - Protected  
29. Dalton Schultz  TE HOU 
30. Logan Thomas  TE SF  
31. Jonathan Allen  DL WAS   
32. D.J. Wonnum  DL CAR 
33. Willie Gay Jr.  LB NO   
34. Jaquan Brisker  DB CHI  
35. Kyle Hamilton  DB BAL   
36. John Metchie III WR HOU - Taxi/IR
37. Courtland Sutton WR DEN - Taxi/IR
38. Jameson Williams WR DET - Taxi/IR 

Time has come for FA. So far Jeff has posted his protects. 

Please get them up by the 14th July so Robbie and I can coordinate pulling them. (via zoom or in person whatever works best) 

My 7 protections are:

Dak Prescott,  Breece Hall,  D'Andre Swift, Michael Pittman Jr., DeVonta Smith, Evan Engram, and Zaire Franklin

Sean - I would be fine with moving the draft to 2pm

Robby - I agree with Proposal 1.

I would change Propsal 2 slightly:

• Keep the +1 XP make (didn't see in your proposal) and -3 XP miss (you had this)
• But no negative points for any other missed FG attempt
• Besides that I was good with the proposed points on FG yardage made

How would everyone feel about a 2:00 PM Start for the draft?  I will be coming back from an out of state  camping trip, specifically for the draft, but I want to make sure I'm on time.  

Happy New League Year!  I have two proposals to keep the league fresh.  

Proposal 1:  Increase league fee -- we've had the same fee for 20 years.  Let's make it more interesting!

Increase fee to $200 ($2000 total) with following payouts:

Winner = $800

2nd = $400

3rd = $200 (gives semifinal losers another game)

Division winner = $200 (x2 = $400)

Wild card winner = $100 (x2 = $200)

Plus the $10 per person website / admin fee...

Proposal 2:  Kicker Scoring -- we give way too many points to the most random position.  

Current scoring:

1 pts for 1 to 20 yd FG

2 pts for 21 to 25 yd FG

3 pts for 26 to 30 yd FG

4 pts for 31 to 35 yd FG

6 pts for 36 to 40 yd FG

8 pts for 41 to 45 yd FG

10 pts for 46 to 50 yd FG

12 pts for 51 to 55 yd FG

15 pts for 56 to 60 yd FG

20 pts for 61 to 999 yd FG

1 pts for each made PAT

 

Missed FG = Not Used

-3 pts for each missed XP

 

Proposal -- let's keep it simple....3 points for every FG up to 40 yards, 4 points for 41-50, 6 points for 51-60, 8 points for 61+.  But minus 3 for every missed FG or XP.