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Edited: Fri Aug 16 6:10pm ET
To the commissioners, thank you for the transparency with making the adjustment. Since it was after the deadline I am happy you reached out as I did have to adjust my board but had plenty of time to do so.
I would vote on any proposal entered as a poll. I had some comments on the kicker rule a month ago, mainly I just didn't like more negatives for a missed FG, I think the -3 for missed PAT is enough, but agree with everything else.
Regarding the money, what is the collection/payment process this year? And assuming still $110 until otherwise voted on but do believe it is probably a little late to vote on that one this year with Cuts already made.
Edited: Fri Aug 16 4:09pm ET
Also, with everybody wanting to up the league buy in I am honestly really confused....is this for fun or is this for money and a trophy here? Maybe I just play with what would be $200 a little different out of my pocket investment wise. Just saying that if we are going to up the ante let's at least stop calling it "fun"...it's a competition for money at the end of the day guys. Not against it or some other things put forth, but let's start calling it what it is please. It's a bunch of friends gambling in order to try and win money and a trophy. And we can't put things up for vote with less than 48 hours to go. We gotta do that in the offseason not on or right before draft day. Thanks and enjoy the season everybody.
Good luck out there!
Edited: Fri Aug 16 4:05pm ET
So since you put it here and seem to think I am the one wrong here. Where did I personally insult you exactly? All I did was call out the time stamps and point out that some of us are way busier than you are and yet we still got this right. But I am wrong for pointing out that a vote was done, past a very clear deadline and your being GIVEN back a player you should have been made to redraft under the league rules. And that is me attacking you personally how exactly? Honestly, this is backwards here…all I did was point out the facts and then vote no. If anybody is being attacked personally here it's me, but yeah let's go on you guys facts it's all good. On to the season already. Thanks all.
I get that mistakes happen. I made one as well with my cuts and almost called to correct it. It just wasnt as bad to make it a thing but I would have asked and I think it would have been alright. We should raise the buy in, change the kicking stuff, if people want to change pay out % put it up for vote. This is for fun and we need not take everything so seriously. Life is too short. I appreciate all players, owners and my friends in this league.
Stacy, I am not quite sure what's going on with you as of late but honestly, your tone/attitude isn't appreciated. This is supposed to be a fun league between old friends. I'm here to have a good time and keep in touch with a group of guys that I've been playing against for decades in the hopes of having the Ninjas name appear again on the Hammer trophy. I'm all for some good banter but personal insults are not cool.
In regards to the rookie and IR FA protection - Robbie had brought it up and I had agreed - we should be able to remove the FA protection from Rookie and IR players on our own team if we don't want them protected from FA. For instance, I had Jamaal Williams on IR and come FA I didn't want to protect him and then ended up cutting him from my roster. In addition, I cut several rookies from my roster on my 20 man cut. So if we plan to cut the player or have no interest in protecting them, they should be a part of the FA cuts. Currently, if a protected player is picked in FA, then another number is pulled until an unprotected player is picked to be dropped as a FA. Robbie's suggestion would just allow us to unprotect players (Rookies or IR) we don't want on our rosters and open them up to being a FA pull.
I think its a good suggestion and I would like to bring it for a vote prior to the draft if its not too late.
In addition, I would also like to vote on a new scoring system for Kickers if its not too late.
I am assuming that the league buy in is too late to vote on but would like to propose it for the next time we can vote on it.
Edited: Fri Aug 16 9:22am ET
“Un protect rookie and IR players before FA”….doesn’t even make sense. Why don’t we just go back to rookie and franchise players if rookies aren’t protected after their rookie season….kinda defeats the purpose of protection doesn’t it?
All good here to play.. Thanks all.
Did these ever go to a vote? I wanted to bring back the ability to unprotect rookies and IR players also - before FA ... Are we voting on new things or do we now have to wait?
Fortunato Enterprises wrote:Happy New League Year! I have two proposals to keep the league fresh.
Proposal 1: Increase league fee -- we've had the same fee for 20 years. Let's make it more interesting!
Increase fee to $200 ($2000 total) with following payouts:
Winner = $800
2nd = $400
3rd = $200 (gives semifinal losers another game)
Division winner = $200 (x2 = $400)
Wild card winner = $100 (x2 = $200)
Plus the $10 per person website / admin fee...
Proposal 2: Kicker Scoring -- we give way too many points to the most random position.
Current scoring:
Commissioner wrote:
Ironically, I have Roger Goodell doppelgänger sitting at table behind me at Trio currently.
I have fixed honest miscuts in offseason for team owners since league was founded. This was legit. And have always posted them to league with full transparency. This affects very little of anything for league, draft, and competitive fairness.
Co Commish agrees and majority of league.
Dell is back on Ninjas and intended cut of Brandon Stephen's DB Bal has been processed.
Please pay attention to avoid this in future.
I have fixed honest miscuts in offseason for team owners since league was founded. This was legit. And have always posted them to league with full transparency. This affects very little of anything for league, draft, and competitive fairness.
Co Commish agrees and majority of league.
Dell is back on Ninjas and intended cut of Brandon Stephen's DB Bal has been processed.
Please pay attention to avoid this in future.
Return of the Mack wrote:
I support putting the player back on.
And, after all these years, its sad to see some folks still haven't learned to just shut the fuck up and be kind.
B
Fortunato Enterprises wrote:
It was an obvious mistake. She’s not asking to drop a player who was injured after cuts. No one is going to be hurt by allowing the change. I say give back Tank Dell.
REDSKINS wrote:I'm fine with correcting what was obviously a mistake and giving Liz Dell back.
And, after all these years, its sad to see some folks still haven't learned to just shut the fuck up and be kind.
B
Edited: Wed Aug 14 4:21pm ET
I made an honest mistake years ago not yet fully knowing the rule and was punished for it. Part of that was I lost the player too. If she gets to knowingly make this mistake and get her player back with ZERO punishment I call full BS here for the record. There is no way she should get this player back it is way past the deadline and it is a flagrant violation of the league rules if it happens. Thanks.
I'm fine with correcting what was obviously a mistake and giving Liz Dell back.
Wow...that basis still holds no water compared to the written and agreed to league rule Liz. You should not be allowed to make the change. It is against the rules. Thanks.
Alpha Ninjas wrote:It was actually less than 48 hours after the error was made. I highly doubt the Dell/Stephens swap would effect anyone's preparation in the last 48 hours.
My opinion also stands.
Evil Monkeys wrote:
WOW....insulting as you may see it here, as you stated you have been here long enough, it is a two step process and your asking three days later after some of us have already begun preparation and crossed names off depth charts. Your mistake honestly isn't my problem as an owner here. You clearly dropped the player, it is your mistake and my vote is you don't get him back. Now you can not like that all you want, but my opinion was asked, has been given and the commissioners office can do what they want from there. If they choose to allow you to very clearly break a league rule based on a democratic vote then what is the point of the rules?
Also, before you start bashing people over there.....I have a full time job, coach soccer teams, run a family of five that has three very active kids, own and run not one but TWO companies....etc...AND I still got this right!
Feel like trying that again over there?
Thanks.
Alpha Ninjas wrote:
I made the cuts on my laptop on Sat and they didn’t save so I did them from my phone on Sunday. I even have a picture of this I sent my son in a text message. Lum notified me on Sunday my cuts needed to be done thank goodness, bc I thought everything was done and save so I immediately jumped on my phone and did them. I went to print out free agency lists yesterday and noticed Tank Dell, one of my fav rookies from last year and texted Lum. Time stamp of notification? Why because something in the NFL changed and it matters?!
Honestly this shouldn’t be a big deal. I’ve never ever asked for any exception in the decades I’ve been in this league, have always paid on time, hit all the deadlines, engage in the draft, submit a line up every week and feel like I’m an active owner.
I don’t work for the government but I do juggle being a single mom with 3 kids and running a household so I make mistakes. Doing it on my phone, despite to 2 step process, proved to allow me to make a mistake.
If anyone has a concern that I’m somehow trying to cheat or get away with something after all these years, then this isnt the league for me. It’s honestly insulting after all these years. As if I would drop Tank Dell and keep another DB.
quote team=Evil Monkeys]So my questions are...
Did she not review her players before she confirmed removal? It is in fact a two step action. The time stamp of which was Sun Aug 11 3:34pm ET.
When did she notify you of this? Was it as soon as she made the drop or was it hours later possibly after seeing any news? Is there a time stamp of when she notified you please?
I work for the government....trust but verify before weighing in...thanks.
No offense but would need more data before voting either way.
It was actually less than 48 hours after the error was made. I highly doubt the Dell/Stephens swap would effect anyone's preparation in the last 48 hours.
My opinion also stands.
Evil Monkeys wrote:
WOW....insulting as you may see it here, as you stated you have been here long enough, it is a two step process and your asking three days later after some of us have already begun preparation and crossed names off depth charts. Your mistake honestly isn't my problem as an owner here. You clearly dropped the player, it is your mistake and my vote is you don't get him back. Now you can not like that all you want, but my opinion was asked, has been given and the commissioners office can do what they want from there. If they choose to allow you to very clearly break a league rule based on a democratic vote then what is the point of the rules?
Also, before you start bashing people over there.....I have a full time job, coach soccer teams, run a family of five that has three very active kids, own and run not one but TWO companies....etc...AND I still got this right!
Feel like trying that again over there?
Thanks.
Alpha Ninjas wrote:
I made the cuts on my laptop on Sat and they didn’t save so I did them from my phone on Sunday. I even have a picture of this I sent my son in a text message. Lum notified me on Sunday my cuts needed to be done thank goodness, bc I thought everything was done and save so I immediately jumped on my phone and did them. I went to print out free agency lists yesterday and noticed Tank Dell, one of my fav rookies from last year and texted Lum. Time stamp of notification? Why because something in the NFL changed and it matters?!
Honestly this shouldn’t be a big deal. I’ve never ever asked for any exception in the decades I’ve been in this league, have always paid on time, hit all the deadlines, engage in the draft, submit a line up every week and feel like I’m an active owner.
I don’t work for the government but I do juggle being a single mom with 3 kids and running a household so I make mistakes. Doing it on my phone, despite to 2 step process, proved to allow me to make a mistake.
If anyone has a concern that I’m somehow trying to cheat or get away with something after all these years, then this isnt the league for me. It’s honestly insulting after all these years. As if I would drop Tank Dell and keep another DB.
quote team=Evil Monkeys]So my questions are...
Did she not review her players before she confirmed removal? It is in fact a two step action. The time stamp of which was Sun Aug 11 3:34pm ET.
When did she notify you of this? Was it as soon as she made the drop or was it hours later possibly after seeing any news? Is there a time stamp of when she notified you please?
I work for the government....trust but verify before weighing in...thanks.
No offense but would need more data before voting either way.
Edited: Wed Aug 14 2:06pm ET
WOW....insulting as you may see it here, as you stated you have been here long enough, it is a two step process and your asking three days later after some of us have already begun preparation and crossed names off depth charts. Your mistake honestly isn't my problem as an owner here. You clearly dropped the player, it is your mistake and my vote is you don't get him back. Now you can not like that all you want, but my opinion was asked, has been given and the commissioners office can do what they want from there. If they choose to allow you to very clearly break a league rule based on a democratic vote then what is the point of the rules?
Also, before you start bashing people over there.....I have a full time job, coach soccer teams, run a family of five that has three very active kids, own and run not one but TWO companies....etc...AND I still got this right!
Feel like trying that again over there?
Thanks.
Alpha Ninjas wrote:
I made the cuts on my laptop on Sat and they didn’t save so I did them from my phone on Sunday. I even have a picture of this I sent my son in a text message. Lum notified me on Sunday my cuts needed to be done thank goodness, bc I thought everything was done and save so I immediately jumped on my phone and did them. I went to print out free agency lists yesterday and noticed Tank Dell, one of my fav rookies from last year and texted Lum. Time stamp of notification? Why because something in the NFL changed and it matters?!
Honestly this shouldn’t be a big deal. I’ve never ever asked for any exception in the decades I’ve been in this league, have always paid on time, hit all the deadlines, engage in the draft, submit a line up every week and feel like I’m an active owner.
I don’t work for the government but I do juggle being a single mom with 3 kids and running a household so I make mistakes. Doing it on my phone, despite to 2 step process, proved to allow me to make a mistake.
If anyone has a concern that I’m somehow trying to cheat or get away with something after all these years, then this isnt the league for me. It’s honestly insulting after all these years. As if I would drop Tank Dell and keep another DB.
quote team=Evil Monkeys]So my questions are...
Did she not review her players before she confirmed removal? It is in fact a two step action. The time stamp of which was Sun Aug 11 3:34pm ET.
When did she notify you of this? Was it as soon as she made the drop or was it hours later possibly after seeing any news? Is there a time stamp of when she notified you please?
I work for the government....trust but verify before weighing in...thanks.
No offense but would need more data before voting either way.
Thank you. Yes. I meant to keep Tank Dell. I don't want Stephens. I would never have kept 5 DBs. Even 4 is a lot for me.
Delinquents wrote:I vote to go ahead and fix. But, what is it again?
Cutting Brandon Stephens and keeping Tank Dell?
Honestly this shouldn’t be a big deal. I’ve never ever asked for any exception in the decades I’ve been in this league, have always paid on time, hit all the deadlines, engage in the draft, submit a line up every week and feel like I’m an active owner.
I don’t work for the government but I do juggle being a single mom with 3 kids and running a household so I make mistakes. Doing it on my phone, despite to 2 step process, proved to allow me to make a mistake.
If anyone has a concern that I’m somehow trying to cheat or get away with something after all these years, then this isnt the league for me. It’s honestly insulting after all these years. As if I would drop Tank Dell and keep another DB.
quote team=Evil Monkeys]
So my questions are...
Did she not review her players before she confirmed removal? It is in fact a two step action. The time stamp of which was Sun Aug 11 3:34pm ET.
When did she notify you of this? Was it as soon as she made the drop or was it hours later possibly after seeing any news? Is there a time stamp of when she notified you please?
I work for the government....trust but verify before weighing in...thanks.
No offense but would need more data before voting either way.
Edited: Wed Aug 14 8:04am ET
So my questions are...
Did she not review her players before she confirmed removal? It is in fact a two step action. The time stamp of which was Sun Aug 11 3:34pm ET.
When did she notify you of this? Was it as soon as she made the drop or was it hours later possibly after seeing any news? Is there a time stamp of when she notified you please?
I work for the government....trust but verify before weighing in...thanks.
No offense but would need more data before voting either way.
